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Rosemary Marshall's avatar

The debate was excruciating to watch. Peter showed his arrogant ignorance on the subjects of Andrew Wakefield and the altered ABS all cause mortality figures. Your comments and the way he dismissed you were appalling. And on the subject of childhood vaccines, my 5 month old granddaughter got injected with the usual MMR ‘vax’ but they added the meningococcal injection one to it. The perfectly healthy child had a cardiac arrest that night and nearly died. Subsequently she was on beta blockers for 6 years. Her heart still beats too fast. 🥹. Our children are given a minimum of 53 vaccinations prior to starting school. Andrew Wakefield was right. They have no idea of what this onslaught can do to an infant, particularly as at 18 months they get 8 at once!

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Luise Pearson-Bernoth's avatar

We cannot berate ourselves for trusting the medical system, we didn't have any idea of the depth of depravity it had sunk to before covid showed us. I am glad your son has survived and has been helped along by his parents. As an early childhood teacher I saw children change or become ill after vaccines and started to wonder. But my questions just fell on deaf ears. The whole vax industry is a financial deal with no health benefits. Good nutrition, sunlight, exercise, basic health needs like clean running water and sewerage systems had already ended the worst diseases in Australia before vaccines came along and tried to take the credit. Thank you for sharing your story.

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Dr Chris Exley has a stack. He's studied aluminum in the brain for 40 years. He advocates drinking mineral water with silica, I may not have spelled it correctly, to remove aluminium, which is present in more than vaccines. Brains of Alzheimer patients have higher levels than non Alzheimer brains.

GeoffPainPhD's avatar

The Aluminium found in Human Brains is in the form of extremely insoluble Aluminosilicate.

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GeoffPainPhD's avatar

Trouble is the insoluble Aluminosilicate causes damage to the surrounding Brain tissue.

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Markker's avatar

From what I have read aboout it so far, Exley says it's not a cure but could prevent later developments. I did read more from a different source, that if given early to those more affected, losing verbal ability, head banging, improvements were noticed. Isn't it criminal that our children be abused like this and hidden under the guise of health care? I'm 69 yrs old. There were just a few injections as a kid. We all got measles, mumps, chicken pox, mainly nothing burgers, although mumps, with the swollen glands, was a bit painful, but we got icecream, a proper treat in those days!

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Beth's avatar

Re: the shingles - read Jennifer Margulis's recent Substack. She points out that without the community presence of chicken pox, adults don't get any natural exposure to boost their immunity, thereby making them vulnerable to reactivation.

peter tomkinson's avatar

Also consider the electrical radiation environment. No cure but it can reduce the 'load' on the sufferer and reducing radiated electrical load, especially WiFi and Blue Tooth pulsed energy will help all of you. Pulsed (digital) radiated energy is far more bio-active than non-pulsed as it is not a natural environmental energy we people have evolved with. 60% or more of those on the spectrum may get some relief by reducing or eliminating radiated electrical energies, all of them but especially digital like WiFi. Use cables.

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peter tomkinson's avatar

see my comment on hard wired telephone - it is a necessity.

Dr Rosemary Faire's avatar

Painful to watch especially the "answers" to good questions afterwards. Great that you and Claire picked up on the flawed death-predicting models and ABS statistical manipulations; I enjoyed the pointed question about medical ethics and AHPRA censorship, which was somehow unheard of by this gentleman?

Some of the other blatant "errors" in the case for the Narrative that I noted:

- there was "no treatment" possible, "nothing could be done" for "Covid patients";

- excess deaths were due to "consequences" of prior Covid infection (like "long Covid" no doubt!);

- 40% in NSW ICU were "unvaccinated" - by what definition?;

- the "most recent figures" (aka those conveniently altered by ABS statistical magic tricks) show a "decline in deaths".

It became obvious that the PsyOp memes were being recycled: "We WILL have another pandemic"; the Quarantine facilities "will be useful in future"; all the usual diatribe against "antivaxxers", "defiantly unvaccinated", "grifters, cranks, charlatans" with "intellectual poverty"; Byron Bay's low childhood vaccinations, a "middle-class affectation" for those "addicted to counter narratives"; the usual Andrew Wakefield accusations of "fabrication"; "you DO NOT PICK AND CHOOSE ABOUT VACCINES". This fellow was either a prime victim of propaganda or a clever...no I think the former, actually.

And his data? Two pictures of unfortunate victims of measles and smallpox. Our vulnerability according to him was that the States run health. Thank goodness the WHO will soon take over!! OMG, he no doubt looks forward to more "miracle" injections. Oh well.

ExcessDeathsAU's avatar

Even data from the ABS Nov 2023 showed +12.1% excess deaths above baseline average.

https://substack.com/@excessdeathsau/note/c-50757492

I wonder how bad it really is now that the ABS is cooking the data big time. Anyway for better or worse I keep record (with screenshots) every month. I am very glad people like Dr Pain are holding them to account.

HeliTramp's avatar

Dr Rosemary, as I didn’t detect any sarcasm in your reference to us all being controlled by the WHO in future, did you seriously think that having the WHO would be beneficial to us in the future?

Dr Rosemary Faire's avatar

Wow, sorry, my sarcasm must have been too subtle! Scrap the WHO ;) Their attempts to take over "global biosecurity" under "one health" must be thwarted or we're sunk.

HeliTramp's avatar

I did re read your post and see it clearly now! I must be still too stressed with all of this. Thank you for taking the time to reply.

Barb L's avatar

I can’t bring myself to watch this after reading the summary. Nothing changes. The circus goes on!

Markker's avatar

Mr Altman, I'd do a deeper dive on the smallpox vaccine for it's effectiveness. Jenner was another fraud. There is much written and Dr Sam Bailey has a video. In a normal world, the regulators would pull these off the market, but they haven't. They give the appearance of doing their jobs by stopping other products, OTCs, that have the potential to cause harm, but don't seem to have any power over any Covid jabs, do they? All these meetings, USA, UK, Australia, Canada, Malaysia, Phillipines, Japan, several countries in Europe, all have declared the jabs as dangerous, not forgetting ineffective, so why has there been no action from regulators or Health Ministers, to stop them? Are we to believe they are all unaware? Who is it that controls the regulators and Health Ministers?

peter tomkinson's avatar

They ARE aware. It was the reason to push the jabs and the ill-health industry prepared the stage for this. It is deliberate. Think about that. Do the homework and ask could they all be so ignorant or careless? Could it be deliberate? All followed basically the standard plan, all over the world, so I think that IS the plan and the outcome was the INTENT.

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Markker's avatar

Please also check out Agent131711 stack. He/she does deep dives into vitamins/supplement ingredients, really deep! When you realise lots of companies selling supplements are owned by the same cartels which own pHarma, there's no surprise there! I think the only way is by giving the body what it needs by eating well, limiting bad indulgences, getting enough sleep and, of course, getting out into the sunshine, exposing skin, eyes, not forgetting to walk barefoot to ground ourselves from damaging EMF radiation, something else I'm learning about.

Andrea's avatar

Yes, we've forgotten how important the basics are : sunshine (on naked skin and eyes), quality sleep, clean unadulterated water, seasonal organic food and limiting our exposure to blue light and EMFs. Unfortunately, our most recent Australians of the Year are going to prompt another huge push to coat ourselves in toxic sunscreens and avoid the sun! What a travesty. The whole money trail clearly shows the riches to be reaped by keeping us sick.

HeliTramp's avatar

Hi Markker, I cannot seem to locate Agent131711 on Substack. Are there and other links you might recommend? Thanks

Markker's avatar

Hi, I checked the number and it's correct and did a test search. It only seems to appear under Publications, not Posts or People. Maybe some censorship going on? Try another search.

HeliTramp's avatar

Thanks I did that and found it.

phillip.altman's avatar

Excellent information Geoff. I will highlight in another Substack due to the importance of this information.

Just call me Jack's avatar

Thanks for the summary, i could barely take 5mins of Peter!

Lapun Ozymandias's avatar

Peter (who styles himself as ‘Jack-the-Insider’) has a reputation for very fixed and intolerant views on other things as well. He does not come across as a person with an open or enquiring mind.

peter tomkinson's avatar

Which is why he was allowed to be involved. Any errors can weaken the argument and clearly have. Control the narrative is the game.

Darrell O. Ricke, M.S., Ph.D.'s avatar

Does vaccination cause ASD? The data in VAERS is consistent with recommended vaccines for children under age 2 ASD adverse events occurring at the current yearly ASD rate; genetic risk factors play a role in some cases; see: https://www.accscience.com/journal/AN/articles/online_first/1288

Elizabeth Hart's avatar

"THE GREAT COVID DEBATE 2024"...

Are you kidding me?!?!?!

'Jack the Insider'/'Peter', a hack with the Murdoch media was given this platform, a viperish individual who uses his column with the Murdoch media to demonise people questioning taxpayer-funded vaccination policy and practice.

Were conflicts of interest disclosed? For instance that the Murdoch media/News Corp Australia is a corporate partner with the Murdoch Children's Research Institute? https://www.mcri.edu.au/mcri/partnerships

The Murdoch Children's Research Institute was originally founded with the support of Rupert Murdoch's mother Elisabeth Murdoch https://www.mcri.edu.au/mcri/about-mcri, and now has the involvement of Lachlan Murdoch's partner Sarah Murdoch on the Board and as an Ambassador https://www.mcri.edu.au/mcri/leadership/ambassadors

The Murdoch Children's Research Institute is involved in vaccine research https://www.mcri.edu.au/research/research-areas/infection-immunity-and-global-health, including Covid-19 vaccine research with the Doherty Institute https://www.mcri.edu.au/research/research-areas/infection-immunity-and-global-health/vaccine-immunisation-research-group-virgo

Was this conflict disclosed by 'Jack the Insider'/'Peter'?

LK's avatar

That was like watching a car crash🤦‍♀️. Jack who was introduced as knowing everything proved he knew nothing. The debate went of course very quickly with Jack trying to give a history lesson in vaccinations rather than debating he COVID 💉 😢. John made some good points but his constant reassurance of vaccinations in general being great was off putting. Surely the focus should have been on the novel gene based medication that was still in its clinical phase when it was mandated on the public. The vaccine injured were ignored and dismissed with ‘we expect a few casualties’ ie do it for the greater good😡

The guy who inference, people who lost their jobs were ready to be sacked and then went on a personal vendetta about Hoody should hang his head in shame. Hopefully he has learned from this experience it’s better to be thought stupid than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt.

This was a great opportunity to explore what is already public knowledge such as the lies and deceit by big pharma, the deaths and coverups from Pfizer’s trial and the government corruption.

Neil D's avatar

Well, I got the following:

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Technical details :

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Session ID: 2024-03-18:ddd37a136e35629ba43403f9 Player Element ID: vjs_video_1157

Hopefully, this isn't the permanent state of affairs on this debate now?

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Neil D's avatar

Hmm, still blocked for me...

Beth's avatar

The percentage of vaccinated people is inflated. I know many people who managed to find someone who 'gave the vaccine' for them to get the vaccine record to be able to work. And I just heard someone tell of getting the first, and somehow the immunisation record put him down as having had three! If I know this many, there are surely many more. And there are other ways to get around it.

I chose not to go that route, as I wanted no part of even looking like I supported the mandate. Yes, it cost me my job as a nurse, and despite what the man from the audience suggested, I was not bad at my job in the first place! They wouldn't take me back because I stood up to them. I am now working in a different capacity as a nurse, but not fully employed as my employer has maintained its policy of 'fully vaccinated' employees until a few weeks ago.

With regard to the claims of sequelae to covid infection: until someone teases apart those who have developed chronic illnesses post infection after mRNA injections, and those who weren't injected, it is still more likely to be an adverse effect. It's incumbent on drug companies to prove safety, not for victims to prove injury!

Beth's avatar

One thought I had about 'The Insider's' presentation (as my mind was fuddled, and a little dissuaded from my firm anti-vax position), was 'lies, damned lies, and statistics'! Some people can wave data and statistics around like weapons, and they sound knowledgable and convincing. Fortunately, I've read too many other commentaries saying the opposite, so I'm still ok. But those who already think like this man will find great encouragement from his speech. Until the truth becomes more accessible, it's a very difficult position to hold.

Miss Corina's avatar

Here is an interesting recent Dec '23 Australian study that shows that a much more highly compliant subgroup of the Australian population, (87% compliance for transgender vs 70% for Australians, who have recieved 3 or more doses by May 2022), were having higher rates of health consequences three months or more after the acute covid illness. (37% transgender vs 5-10% Australians).

Lots of statistics and confounding factors to dissect in this one. A job for Prof Fenton because it is too much for my limited 1st year University Statistical Brain.

Yet another coincidence perhaps?

https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2024/220/1/disruption-trans-care-during-covid-19

Beth's avatar

From my observations, people who have had multiple jabs, are often falling sick frequently. Repeat covid infections, or general illnesses. Someone close to me who is in medical school told me recently that about a third of her cohort are off sick at any given time.

Christine's avatar

There never was a Covid Pandemic, all it was, was seasonal Flu, which the WHO with the co-ordination of our governments made into a Covid Pandemic which did not exist ,to scare people into vaccines which stripped their human rights from them and made them a new species with zero rights of any kind and the easier to exterminate as in full blown deliberate Genocide, with 2 billion of the 8 billion being aimed at, as already exterminated.

Fearing being revealed, our governments are now trying to create legislation to suppress what they have been doing and that which they have already achieved, by deliberate vaccine deaths, or other devious means with the same deadly results: Dr. Yeadon’s Recent Message to Support Criminal Investigations in UK

https://interestofjustice.substack.com/p/dr-mike-yeadon-introductory-statement?utm_source=substack&utm_campaign=post_embed&utm_medium=email

I don’t think it’s too great a claim to say that there isn’t anyone better qualified than I am to do this in relation to these novel treatments. I’m going to go directly to the charges. These injections have been carefully designed to intentionally cause toxicity in those injected with them. I can detect at least three, separate features of these injections which would be expected to injure, to kill or to reduce fertility in survivors. These are not mistakes. Each are so obviously deliberate to anyone who has a history of involvement in rational drug design for new medicines. -Dr. Yeadon

Subject: Fw: Dr Mike Yeadon: Introductory statement about serious crimes per Mark Sexton communication

To: Ben.Bates@met.police.uk

<Ben.Bates@met.police.uk>

Cc: Mark Sexton

Dear Ben Bates,

Dear Ben Bates, I have been asked by former policeman, Mark Sexton (copied) to introduce myself to you & to indicate the fields in which I have unequivocal evidence of criminal activity.

Beth's avatar

It's very difficult to think that these were developed and given with wilful intent to cause harm. The people at the top are capitalists and need people to give them their money. If people can't work they won't have money. They may be dependent on pharmacological treatments, but may also die without them. Can it be so carefully designed as to cause enough harm to keep people sick, but still able to limp through life, propped up by pills and potions?

Christine's avatar

I am of the opinion and I have been for years, that all Doctors who prescribe pills and potions are representatives of Big Pharma first and you the patient second. Doctors are paid between $50 and $150 each script or vaccine injection they give - but say 1,000 patients x 4 times a year @ $50 a head = $200,000 for printing out a Prescription alone? While Doctors have not been behind the eventual re-modification, to be modified you have to volunteer and whilst I project what I think is plausible, it does not mean I am right, I push the boundaries by introducing what I see as making sense - like why are Moderna building ModRNA factories everywhere, when nobody wants their vaccines any more., undaunted? Ultimately, it was never Moderna or Pfizer behind this but the Military who purchased the vaccines and supplied them and why would they do that, unless they had some sort of end goal in mind. The Ukraine war might not be going very well and perhaps America will need to send replacement troops who don't wear American flags to support the Ukrainians - and if so, what form will they take?

Beth's avatar

Which country are you in? I don't believe that Australian doctors are paid per script. They do receive a small payment from Medicare for each vaccine given.

How can you say that nobody wants Moderna's mRNA vaccines any more? I think the majority of people still firmly believe that the covid injections were safe, effective, and essential. They were slightly better informed about the different ones available, but by and large, any injection is better than none.

As for why they're building factories all over the world...vaccines are the holy grail of health care, the golden calf. A bit like the silver bullet of antibiotics. And they believe that the covid trials were successful, therefore all that ails us will soon have a vaccine to prevent it. I have just heard about the release of a shingles mRNA vax.

It's not hard to see that there is something bigger behind the pandemic, the 'vaccine', and all the different issues that are being pushed as harmful to life as we know it. I suspect it's not much more than the age old power, and money. Doesn't make it okay, but it explains a lot. They are pushing ahead with their plans, and nothing short of millions of people dying from the injections will stop them.

Christine's avatar

I don't say where I live, because obviously, I'm not on the side of the vaccine guys. Vaccines are supposed to create antibodies, but bodies don't know what antibodies are, so they can't make them, can they. So what happens is that Moderna's Covid-19 virus #CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG is injected with Billions of Carbon Particles which are a Bio-Weapon and SV40 in a Lipid OPackage which fools the Blood Brain Barrier into letting it through and while you have a Covid infection in your head Guess what: Confidential Pfizer document (which Pfizer wanted hidden for 7 years) shows the company observed 1.6 million adverse events covering nearly every organ and Over 10,000 categories of nearly 1.6 million adverse events – many of them serious and debilitating – brought to you by Pfizer! and it is the vaccines, by injection that create the illnesses which in turn kill those affected, deliberately.

Remember when you were told not to worry because this new mRNA vaccine would stay in your arm? You were patronizingly told that after being injected into your muscle, the mRNA would instruct the muscle cells to start growing the spike protein, you would have an immune response, you wouldn’t infect anybody…ever, you would be a hero, you wouldn’t die…of anything and it would stop there. Nothing to worry about.

It turns out that not only was it deliberate misinformation, it was an out and out lie. Not only was it known that the mRNA wouldn’t stay in the arm, they actually wanted it to go around your body. Clearly, we were all told the ‘stay in your arm’ lie to reduce vaccine hesitancy and increase big pharma profits.

Last year we learnt that BioNTech, the company that developed the mRNA vaccine with Pfizer, wanted the mRNA to travel around the body to the lymph nodes.

We know that the genetically modified are being prepared for The Bodyhack. Virginie Joron, a French MP, tweeted a picture from a presentation she was attending. The speaker was Özlem Türeci, co-founder of BioNTech and her slide was called ‘The Bodyhack - Bringing mRNA to the right cells at the right places’.

The image clearly shows that the cells BioNTech were targeting were dendritic cells in the lymph nodes. Robert Kogon reported that “A passage from The Vaccine, the book that Türeci and her husband, BioNTech CEO Ugur Sahin, wrote with journalist Joe Miller, explains why BioNTech’s platform specifically targets the lymph nodes:

What Ugur learnt was that the location to which a vaccine delivers its ‘wanted poster’ really mattered. The reason for this, the couple’s team in Mainz later realized, was that not all dendritic cells … were created equal. The ones that resided in lymph nodes – of which the spleen is the largest – were particularly adept at capturing mRNA and making sure the instructions it carried were acted upon. These kidney-bean shaped organs, found under our armpits, in our groins, and at several other outposts in the body, are the information hubs of the immune system. (p. 98)

Indeed, Sahin and Türeci were so determined to get their mRNA into the lymph nodes that they had an earlier mRNA construct injected directly into the patient’s lymph nodes in the groin (p. 104).

Funny - I thought a viral infection in your head, would be targeted in your head and not your Lymph Nodes, after the Spike Proteins have passed through all of your bodies organs first?

But here is the kicker and I suggest you download it and read it: https://interestofjustice.substack.com/api/v1/file/f52e8eaa-0f43-4f6f-9f5b-b8f82729c31b.pdf then you can tell me why what was done as it was and why it was so important to get as many vaccinated as possible and for what?

Beth's avatar

Hang on...I'm on your side! I'm just putting out the argument that most people I know are making. In my immediate family, my husband and I are the only ones who refused this horrible thing. I agree that there is something nefarious happening, but most people around us seem to be ignorant and still think it's fantastic progress in the history of medicine! That's how come Moderna can be building factories around the world. And because governments also spot money and economic benefit so give approval.

I only wonder what country you're in because Australian doctors aren't paid that much for prescriptions, if at all. Only payments from the health budget for getting needles in arms as incentives to keep everyone vaccinated.

We really need to stand side by side in this. The governments of the world have already convinced the gullible that we (the non-compliant) are small in number, uneducated, conspiracy nuts. The divide and conquer strategy.

Christine's avatar

Hi Beth - I don't take sides. I have my own opinion and I stay with that. I have been at this Covid thing and with my substack for over 4 years now. I don't say where I live because most of what I post is anti vaccines and I am sure that I must have awoken the vaccines machine to have an interest in me. I don't have an opinion other than being dead set against the vaccines and that is sufficient to my needs. I don't live in Australia wherever that is and I don't know or care how they live over there. At days end, unfortunately, the vaccinated volunteered for whatever happens to them and nothing I or you can do to change whatever that might be. I can speculate, but that does not mean I am right. I appear to be most of the time, but I would much rather I was not!! Trump started it and Biden finished it and unfortunately the multitude got their experimental test vaccines and nothing you or I can do to change that for them. Like you, I am not vaccinated, nor will I ever agree to be, thus I am Human with all of my Human Rights by Law, but the vaccinated are now legally a new species with ModRNA DNA and zero Human rights, by Law, which bodes ill for them, I think and this is why: https://interestofjustice.substack.com/api/v1/file/f52e8eaa-0f43-4f6f-9f5b-b8f82729c31b.pdf

and this: The Supreme Court ruled that if there is anything synthetic, not from nature, inside of our genome, then whoever owns the patent on those synthetic parts now owns part or all of you as a human. That means Bill and Melinda Gates, The Department of Defense, [and others] can literally own a human being. If this synthetic code is taken up into your genome, by law, you could be owned overnight.”

Christine's avatar

"We know that the genetically modified are being prepared for The Bodyhack" So what does Bodyhack mean to you?

peter tomkinson's avatar

When the electricity fails as it does quite often to us here, OR someone turns it all off, does the NBN and WiFi work? Nope? So when the mobile fails or the battery is flat how will you communicate? Give the telecom provider hell to get the hard wired service functioning and keep it and have a hard wired, not cordless (its WiFi too) telephone that needs no electrical power to operate as a telephone. Only thing for an emergency in a blackout.

Angela Gabriella's avatar

I wrote plus phoned my local MP in regards to removing the population away from working copper wired communications to one that relies solely on electricity. He didn’t personally reply. I only received a generic message. Twice. He probably was directed not to respond on the subject because money was to be transferred from the coffers for the NBN scheme and that’s all that matters.

peter tomkinson's avatar

Complaining about something can be ignored or brushed off. Unfortunately, and they know this. Writing, not email, an old fashion letter on paper (send a copy and retain signed original and say so) to a man or woman by name is the best and state what you believe to be true. Write this three times with request to rebut your claims with evidence and the third letter (always tracked mail to prove delivery to the man or woman) if no sufficient reply has been received 'STANDS AS THE TRUTH'. Plus they cannot deny knowing the information you wrote. Along the south coast of NSW after the massive fires 2019/20 a lot of cell towers were out and in some place only old copper hard wired worked. Many had no money, no fuel, no mobile phone, and little or no food or water. More mobile towers is NOT the answer but what 'they' are wanting to do. Whyeee we must ask ourselves - its the plan but whyeee? I know. Do you?

peter tomkinson's avatar

Never get between a man and his income is an old saying apparently, and one I believe is quite often true. Choice, get sales moving and recovering investment plus a profit, or delay sales until very detailed and careful safety studies show beyond doubt a big benefit over any minor risks? Investors want returns, bonuses depend upon income, debt must be repaid now. What choice do we think business managements make? It is absurd to have people in positions where the choice is health risk later for the consumers of a commercial product OR business risk now for shareholders. That's stupidity for the basis of a health system. Other people's private finances should have no part in whatever health needs I have.